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holcombe347
 Post subject: rebuilding a 22R
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okay, its time to start thinking about fixing my motor. its burning more oil than ever and the timing chain is ticking louder and louder. i was originally going to to get another rebuilt from an auto-parts store and just swap motors, but then i got to thinking about it. how hard would it be to just rebuild the one i have myself? i have the book and a torque wrench lol. if i rebuild it myself it would cost half to maybe a lil less to fix versus buying another motor. in doing this i could add some small touches like bore the cylinders a lil bit bigger, bigger cam, and a dual row timing kit. although buying another motor would be easier, rebuilding the one i have myself would be cheaper. has anyone ever done this before? ive never torn down a motor this big before so i dont really know what to expect. does anyone have any input or suggestions about this? ( i know machine work can get expensive so its not a necessity it gets done....i just want a reliable motor again)
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It isn't that hard to rebuild a motor,Toyota motors are pretty tight from the factory so you should be alright machine work wise on the bearings, You can put a pretty big cam in it cause they have adjustable valve las and don't have to shim the buckets. Dual row I don't know if it is worth it I guess if you had a monster motor on No2 I would be good but now you can get the steel back guides so you don't have to worry about them like the older ones. I know a guy that does machine work in Jaxs and I think he told me like 200 to bore it over and fit the pistions and rings(don't quote me I will have to aks him again)But with the 22r motors you should be alright to take it to any machine shop and get it done.
As long as you are not knocking or anything it should be a pretty easy straight forward rebuild
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no its not knocking or nothing like that, its just every time i start it up and drive it..the timing chain is ticking...i probably wont break but i still know about it and dont want to drive it far if i dont have to. ive never rebuilt a motor before like this...i used to do our motor cycle engines but this is a lil different. my dad has a buddy that knows how it needs to be done...also, what is a good kit to get. if i do it myself i dont want to use cheepy parts so it breaks again after 50k like this one did.
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i put a double row set in mine with the new steel guide plates mad a hell a lot of difference.but this is what im going to get one day lol
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blowers rule. friend of mines gonna get one of those. i think i'll be happy with the stroker since i dont do much racin...
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that is pretty tight. prolly a dumb question but does the dual row timing chain add any more power than the single....i dont see how a power increase or proformance increase would come from doing that...the only reason i want to do it...to make sure the bastard doesnt break again...or tick like mine is doing now. lol
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.to make sure the bastard doesnt break again.

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yea no power increase its just to make sure i don't have to do that again lol. mine where so bad it was eating into my cover not good


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cool, thanks guys. what would be a good rebuild kit to buy? like i said, i dont want a cheepy thats gonna have to be replaced in 50k miles like this one is.
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there some good ones on ebay for cheap id look there


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yeah but what brands are good brands. lol. so i can stay away from the "wal-mart" brand kits.
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I don't know if Napa offers gaskets in the "GoldLine" Seris but if they do all it is is re-boxed OE parts, Fel-Pro is good as well most of all there gaskets are made in Japan as well.
I wouldn't put the dealer out of the pic either I buy all my gaskest and such from the dealer and most of the time it is cheaper(for me anyway :lol:)
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holcombe347 wrote:
that is pretty tight. prolly a dumb question but does the dual row timing chain add any more power than the single....i dont see how a power increase or proformance increase would come from doing that...the only reason i want to do it...to make sure the bastard doesnt break again...or tick like mine is doing now. lol

Some of the guys I know switch to the single row cause it is less rotating mass so it will rev up a little quicker
That said I was think about getting it just for the pimp factory :lol:
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lol yeah i'll bet you work for toyota. i go in there enough to get parts for my truck, they should give me frequent flyer miles or something. yeah im gonna call them tomorrow and see if they have a kit or something. that would take forever to search each individual part and price ya know.
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I don't know if Napa offers gaskets in the "GoldLine" Seris

manufactured by Clevite(a Dana subsidiary(sp)) good stuff victro seal metal gaskets are good. if you go to napa, ask for "Green sheet price", "N" price code. and if you want to harmonic balancer!!! with em, ask em to run it a "Z" price :D
and yota would be good. you dont have to work there to get a discount either. i get a killer discount. like 10% over cost. just get to be good friends with a parts counter dude or a local shop that gets discount and do cash ticket thru that shops name.
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